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« Dato: 05 Juni 2012, 08:06:08 »
Petra nævnte, at hun nu ville starte op på TW's diæt. Jeg tror vi efterhånden er mange på den herinde.

Så jeg tænkte, at det måske kunne være en ide med en tråd om diæten - helt for sig selv. Her kan vi så give hinanden råd og hjælp til at holde diæten, tips og tricks, råd og vink, og støtte hinanden i kampen mod MS'en og fortælle om erfaringer, for og imod.

Jeg har været på diæten siden november, overholder den fint, og har kun snydt et par enkelte gange. Mærker dog ingen forandring/forbedring. Måske gør jeg noget forkert?
SPMS'er, dx 1997, kørestolsfræser. Har aldrig fået medicin. Selvbedømt EDSS 7. Liberated i Indien d. 8.11.2010 - små bitte forbedringer.
Siden 1.1.2012 på TW's diæt - 100%. 1. juni 2013 startet D-vit. kur.

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« Svar #1 Dato: 05 Juni 2012, 09:06:40 »
god idé med seperat tråd med TW diet :-)

Jeg har fulgt den men får ikke spist nok grønt....har købt hendes bog og bruger hendes strukturede dag-logs for at holde styr på om jeg får nok....

Her i maj var jeg så på Haslev, hvor de følger 'de 8 kostråd' og kunne i løbet af 2 dage mærke at bl.a. mit energi niveau faldt markant..... :-(

Nu er jeg hjemme igen og skal 'starte forfra' men er virkelig blevet bekræftiget i, at TW diet er SUPER!!!!! :-)

Mvh
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« Svar #2 Dato: 05 Juni 2012, 10:52:09 »
Da jeg skulle starte på tw-diæt, og skulle købe 'Minding my Mitchondria' på Amazon, faldt jeg over en anmelselse af bogen, som er meget interessant. Den gør opmærksom på at tw har revideret mange aspekter af diæten i forhold til hvordan den er beskrevet i bogen. Anmeldelsen er meget detaljeret, den har jeg lænet mig op af. Det er derfor verden venter på hendes nye bog, som efter sigende først udkommer om lang tid (år!). Jeg ved ikke, om det hænger sammen med noget forskning, at den ikke bare bliver udgivet...
RRMS dx 2002.
Vogl, oktober 2010
Ameds, marts 2012
'Terry Wahls Diæt' siden 3. april 2012
'Terry Wahls Paleo Diæt' siden 1. oktober 2012

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« Svar #3 Dato: 05 Juni 2012, 10:58:04 »
Det lykkedes vist ikke at lave et link til en wordfil ovenfor, så her er den klippet ind:


4.0 out of 5 stars This info really works and Dr Wahl IS the real deal,, 31 Jan 2012
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This review is from: Minding My Mitochondria 2nd Edition (Paperback)
I was very unsure about this diet at first, as it seemed to clash so strongly with so many of the wonderful health and diet books I had been reading.

Wahl's recommendation of a low fat diet that was also very low in saturated fat is the opposite of what highly respected lipid expert Mary Enig PhD recommends, and what is recommended - based on a ton of very convincing evidence - in so many other great books based on maintaining or regaining health through eating the diet our bodies have evolved to do best on, such as Primal Body- Primal Mind, Primal Blueprint, The Perfect Health Diet, Eat Fat-Lose Fat, The GAPS diet and others.

So when a friend told me that in fact Dr Wahl has very much changed her stance on fats and saturated fat and now recommends cooking with healthy fats such as coconut oil, butter/ghee (from grassfed cows) and lard, I was really happy to hear it!

With that one big issue resolved, this is a diet that tallies hugely with what some of the very best experts in this field are saying and combines the best of what many excellent nutrition books have to say into one dietary plan that I feel is really the best diet out there for anyone battling a serious disease. It is just excellent. I recommend following it if you are ill, very highly.

Patients need to read up online about the changes Wahl has made in addition to reading this book, or else just get the information of the diet online while making sure it is up-to-date. (I hope so much that those that have written very pro-low fat fat diet comments about this book on the reviews page will read this updated information somehow. The right fats in the diet are so essential for healing, and for proper mitochondrial function.)

The book recommends eating soy products, rice and potatoes and also recommends a low-fat diet. The current diet plan does not support adding these foods to the diet and is a high-fat diet; high in healthy fats. It is a low-sugar and starch, dairy-free, gluten-free and soy-free diet that minimises or eliminates grains, legumes and potatoes. (Some of us need to completely eliminate these. I know I do.)

Wahls' writes, 'Raw dairy still has casein (protein) that looks like gluten to our immune system. That means raw milk still stimulates immune system problems. For those with food allergies / sensitivities it is still a major problem. Once sensitized - always sensitized. I avoid and strongly urge all with an a chronic disease or autoimmune disease to AVOID. Gluten grains - wheat, rye, barley, and the protein in dairy - can lead to an over active immune reaction -- which then can lead to autoimmune problems, asthma, rashes, mood problems and more. For many going gluten free, dairy free is the beginning of better health. Going fully paleo (no grain and no legumes) for many will lead to even more vitality. But for most - it is a transition that may take several weeks or months. It is ok to start small, but do start the journey..'

Wahls' current diet plan, as best as I can work it out, is as follows:

* Eating 9 cups of non-starchy vegetables and berries each day (3 cups each of greens, sulfur containing veggies, and colourful veggies) is essential. Choose organic and/or grow your own if you can.

* It is okay to take in some of your 9 cups in the form of freshly pressed juices.

* Eating good quality grass-fed/free-range/organic meats daily is essential.

* Cook with natural fats such as coconut oil, lard and clarified butter/ghee.

* Eating organ meats such as liver is recommended at least once a week. Liver is very important for B vitamins. Cooked medium rare is best.

* Bone broths are recommended daily. They are full of minerals and help heal the gut.

* Eating seaweed once a week or more is recommended.

* Eating nuts/seeds or nutritional yeast is recommended daily, including coconut milk.

* Eating sprouts is recommended, such as broccoli sprouts.

* Eating fermented foods such as unpasturised sauerkraut is recommended.

* Eggs are recommended, although people with autoimmune diseases should not have egg whites due to a problematic protein in the egg white. (They should be eliminated at first and added back after a few weeks, and only eaten if there is no reaction to them. Same with nightshades)

* Eating small amounts of honey or cocoa is okay, and so is eating natural flavourings in food such as spices and ginger.

* Getting enough Omega 3 fatty acids and not too many Omega 6s is important, so Omega 6 containing oils should be minimised and fish oil capsules taken, and foods such as hemp oil, seafood and flax oil eaten. The best ratio is 3:1.

Other helpful things:

* Vitamin D should be over 50 ng/ml and under 100 ng/ml. (Take a test every 1- 3 months and take 4000 IU vitamin D3 daily, or more if needed. 150 ng/ml is toxic.).

* Having daily quiet time is important, to calm down our adrenals. Meditation, massage, nature and family time is also important.

* Epson salt baths, melatonin and herbal teas can help sleep.

* Minimise toxin exposure and quit smoking.

* B complex supplements or sulphur amino acids may be helpful (under a doctor's direction).

* Heavy metal testing and treatments such as clay baths and facial clay masks and saunas may be helpful.

* A good quality water filter is essential.

Wahl also supports ideas such as:

* Supplements can in some cases be helpful, but they can never replace a nutrient dense and healthy diet. A proper diet must always come first. Foods contain many beneficial cofactors and other compounds not included in supplements and many that we have not yet even discovered or named.

* Getting evaluated for potential food allergies, toxic load issues and more personalised nutritional needs by a practitioner of functional medicine is a very good idea. The Institute for Functional Medicine can help you find a provider in your area.

* Drugs are not the answer. Let food, good wholesome food be thy medicine.

* "Between the unexpected, unpleasant events in our lives and our response to those events is a space, and in that space we have a choice in deciding what our response will be. We can either give up or get up each day and do our best."

* "Epigenetics is how your environment talks to your genes. Our cells are capable of reading the state of our environment and activating or deactivating genes. This means that, based on the choices we make, we can turn on genes for health or turn off those health-promoting genes. In other words, it is your health behaviors such as diet and activities, that determine whether the health-promoting or the health-robbing genes are active. For some conditions, such as cystic fibrosis or hemophilia, our genes are an important factor, often the cause of the disease. But for the obesity, heart disease, mental health and autoimmune epidemics that are driving up the cost of health care in the U.S. and around the world, there are no single genes that are the culprit. Instead, for each of these problems, multiple genes are involved, and they interact in a complex way with the environment."

* We need to stop blaming our genes for our illnesses and work on making the best of the 70% that is under our control.

* "Yes, it does cost more to eat vegetables. But you will pay the price either way--for food that restores your health and vitality or for doctor visits, drugs, surgery and loss of work due to health problems."

* "Functional medicine is really looking at health of the cell. And what can we do to help the individual make the environment for their cells, an environment for doing the biochemistry life more ideal. So that comes down to the fruit you eat or do not eat, the quality of the air you breathe, the water you drink, the toxic load that is in your body is a result of the exposure you had over a lifetime because if you couldn't get the toxins out the day you were exposed to them, they get parked in your fat and did you know that your brain is 70% fat? So if you can't get the toxins out you had today with your whatever your exposure was, you're parking it in your fat and your brain which is going to create havoc over time."

Hard to argue with any of that! I agree with all of it. Most of the above are quotes from Dr Wahls, from her many websites.

Functional or holistic medicine just makes so much sense. It treats the actual cause of diseases, rather than just blindly drugging everything and focusing on endlessly chasing and minimising symptoms.

There are 3 basic principles of the type of medicine discussed by Wahls and others in this same field:

A. Get the good stuff in. Give your body the fuel and tools it needs to work at an optimum level. Good food, nutrients and all the proper vitamins, minerals and antioxidants. Make sure you aren't deficient in any of the major nutrients as the different nutrients all work together.

B. Get the bad stuff out. Make sure your body can detoxify out all the toxic substances and toxic by-products of bodily processes properly. Stop as many toxins from getting in in the first place, and do things which aid detoxification to get rid of the ones you have.

C. Reduce your body's total load. The total load concept is that lessening the body's overall burden/work and stress level in one area, will improve health generally and improve the body's ability to heal because the body's total load (or burden) is lessened. Fixing one problem frees up bodily resources that can be then be used to help other parts of the body function getter or to heal. In other words, you need to look at the body as a whole in order to heal, and not just the one part of the body that is generating the most symptoms.

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A special note to M.E. patients on the Wahls protocol:

Myalgic Encephalomyelitis is a neurological disease similar in some ways to MS, which also causes demyelination and mitochondrial dysfunction.

For those with my particular neurological disease, Myalgic Encephalomyelitis, it is important that activity levels be kept always within very strict limits, or else relapse will occur. (Death is also a risk in M.E. if overexertion is severe. This is not about symptoms or feeling fatigued, but a problem of cardiac insufficiency, reduced circulating blood volume and POTS and so on which is very serious and non-negotiable. Overexertion always causes a worsening of the disease.) But of course activity levels can and should be raised slowly to keep in line with health improvements in M.E. - this is something that happens naturally anyway.

For those unfamiliar with the disease, many M.E. patients are housebound and almost entirely bedbound (and far too ill to use wheelchairs for even small periods of time in a day or week) and limited with even basic communication and reading; which is also part of why I am trying hard to summarise the work of Wahls for them as much as possible. 30 minutes of gravity opposing exercise is probably a great recommendation for almost everyone but should be ommited by M.E. patients unless they can do this without becoming more ill or symptomatic.

Also, Wahls says: 'It is common to have some level of detoxification (more fatigue, headache) in the first week which resolves and then improves markedly by week two.' I would say that for M.E. patients this statement is not quite right and is an enormous understatement. M.E. patients will often have quite severe healing reactions to supplementation and changes in diet. These can be severe enough to make a patient no longer able to feed themselves or do other tasks of daily living. They can also last FAR longer than just a week!

It is important for anyone ill to make the dietary changes gradually, and for patients with M.E. this caution should be taken very seriously. Jumping in with both feet too fast could leave you very very ill for months afterward. Healing reactions are a good sign that healing is occurring, but need to be controlled so they don't become overwhelming. Switch to the full diet over a few months at least. Slowly but surely is the way to go! Improvements will almost certainly be slow too, so patience is necessary there as well, especially when the illness has been severe for many years or even several decades or more.

M.E. patients will also often do far better eating cooked veggies rather than raw, which can be too difficult for us to digest. (For more M.E. patient-specific tips and cautions see the HFME website. All free of course.)

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This diet is described as an MS diet, but really this diet is the diet we have all evolved to be best suited to. All of us need such a nutrient-dense and low-toxicity diet, and so I hope people with all sorts of diseases look into the Wahls diet and not just those with neurological diseases. The diet can also help where there is not yet a correct diagnosis. We all need the right amounts of the nutrients that enable healing, no matter what disease we have.

For some people following this diet plan will be enough, but for others a higher level of intervention will be required in addition to the diet. The first step toward healing has to be an excellent diet and good gut health, combined with minimising toxin exposures. If more help is needed then, as Wahls explains, it is best to see a Functional/Holistic medicine expert so that it can be determined what extra supplements or other supports you may need. The key is learning about your own 'biochemical individuality.' There are so many tests now which can be done to determine where your detoxification pathways are failing, which nutrients you need more of or have problems utilising or why your gut is still not functioning right.

For those that can't find or can't afford to see a Functional/Holistic medicine expert, or cannot see any medical expert due to being housebound etc., an excellent companion to Wahls book are the books by Functional/Holistic medicine experts such as Dr Sherry Rogers. Dr Rogers tells you exactly which tests may help you, how to treat more complex gut problems and how to go about following a more intensive detoxification regime involving a detox cocktail and FIR sauna use. Dr Rogers books are to some extent `do-it-yourself' health books but ideally Dr Rogers recommends that you get well with the help of a qualified practitioner that will be able to order the appropriate tests for you, and also help you interpret them.

Dr Sherry Rogers writes in `Detoxify or Die',

`I have to laugh when people ask me if I do alternative, herbal, acupuncture or holistic medicine. 'No,' I reply. 'We do state-of-the-art medicine. In other words, we find the biochemical, nutritional and environmental causes and cures rather than blindly drugging everything. Sure, herbs are gentler, safer and more physiologic than drugs and holistic medicine attempts to incorporate many diverse modalities, etc. But there is no substitute for finding the underlying biochemical causes and cures. This is real medicine. This is where medicine should and would have been decades ago, if it had not been abducted by the pharmaceutical industry.'

Following a super-high-quality diet is also the foundation of Dr Rogers' treatment plan and so starting with the Wahls diet (which is the best there is) and then moving on (if necessary) to follow Dr Rogers' advice on advanced detoxification techniques just makes so much sense. The best book of hers to start with is Detoxify or Die. It is just brilliant and very easy to read as well. It has so much good information and support for sauna use and so much more. Her book 'The Safe, Effective Way to Prevent and Heal Chronic Gastrointestinal Disorders' is also excellent.

In addition to books by Dr Sherry Rogers I'd also recommend books and articles by Dr Lawrence Wilson (particularly his book on sauna use), Dr Klenner, Dr Abram Hoffer, Andrew Saul, Sally Fallon and Mary Enig and any and all of the vitamin C and orthomolecular experts such as Linus Pauling and Dr Thomas Levy. Other excellent books on diet and nutrition (with huge amounts in common with the Wahls diet) include Primal Body-Primal Mind, The Primal Blueprint, The Perfect Health Diet and Deep Nutrition as well as books on the GAPS diet for the treatment of dysbiosis and a diet-based plan to heal the gut.

Gut health is so important and if gut health is poor, then your body can't properly use all the wonderful nutritious food you are eating. Many of us need to heal the gut first of all, and this may at first involve supplements such as Betaine HCL, enzymes and probiotics, as well as dietary changes, as these books explain. All of these books, along with Wahls book, are far more than just standard Paleo diet books.

Combining the excellent Wahls diet with the advice on detoxification by Dr Rogers (including the use of an FIR sauna and a daily detox cocktail and 'oil change' nutrients and digestive supports) has seen me finally start to slowly improve my health this last year and a half. I'm slowly improving month by month from a very severe neurological disease - thanks in part to the work of Dr Wahls and Dr Rogers, and others like them - that has left me housebound and almost entirely bedbound for many years. I have been housebound and almost entirely bedbound (and far too ill to even use a wheelchair, or even the phone) for over 10 years and I got ill when I was just 19. Getting slowly worse and worse year after year was terrifying, especially when I was so ill and disabled already.

I wish so much I had had this information early on in my disease, rather than coming to it more than 10 years in. Healing is so much easier the earlier you start it.

I wont know how much of my damage is irreversible until I improve a lot more (a LOT more I hope!) and find out where I plateau. But for those that have been ill 'only' 5 or 7 years or less, or that are not severely ill, I do think these approaches could be curative or very close to it. At the very least they will undo as much damage as can be undone.

My big dream is to get to a 30% function level, where I can live independently.... I'm still so far away from that currently, but I am at least making slow but sure progress now! Being able to cook a little this last year after 8 years or more not being able to even make myself a cup of tea has been just so wonderful. Cooking myself an egg is a joyful experience! It is so wonderful to now each month be getting small UNsymptoms and UNdisabilities!

I have learned so much about health that I would never have known if I had not become so ill and been forced to learn it!

The Wahls Foundation is a nonprofit organisation that hopes to raise funds to do research on this diet. Buying this book helps fund their research. The book is mostly recipes and reading more of her ideas online is so helpful. I'd highly recommend watching all her free videos online (watch out for the loud sound on some of them - ouch!), plus her FB page and blog and website. They are all so helpful.

Dr Wahls is the real deal and is clearly motivated by a genuine desire to help ill people improve their health. I wish her and her Foundation all the best and thank them for all their wonderful work. This is real cutting edge medicine.

Best wishes for future health to anyone still reading this far!

Jodi Bassett, The Hummingbirds' Foundation for Myalgic Encephalomyelitis
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RRMS dx 2002.
Vogl, oktober 2010
Ameds, marts 2012
'Terry Wahls Diæt' siden 3. april 2012
'Terry Wahls Paleo Diæt' siden 1. oktober 2012

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« Svar #4 Dato: 05 Juni 2012, 11:52:48 »
Måske er mit problem at jeg ikke kommer i nærheden af, langt fra, at spise den mængde hun anbefaler. Ud over morgenmad spiser jeg kun en gang om dagen, midt på eftermiddagen, og er jeg yderligere sulten, så står den på frugt.

Men jeg overholder "forbudslisten".
SPMS'er, dx 1997, kørestolsfræser. Har aldrig fået medicin. Selvbedømt EDSS 7. Liberated i Indien d. 8.11.2010 - små bitte forbedringer.
Siden 1.1.2012 på TW's diæt - 100%. 1. juni 2013 startet D-vit. kur.

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« Svar #5 Dato: 05 Juni 2012, 14:01:45 »
Lisa, har du set tw’s link til hvordan forskellige brugere af diæten oplever det? Enkelte steder svarer tw på tvivlsspørgsmål, herunder også dit omkring mængden, som ikke lader til at være afgørende:
 
The key part on the Wahls Diet™ is to eat proportionately what you can of the greens, sulfur, color, grass fed meat, organ meat and seaweed. If you can't eat 9 cups of vegetables/ berries, that is OK. Eat what you can and avoid the grain, dairy and legumes. Or at the very least go gluten and dairy free.

Dr. Terry Wahls
 
http://www.terrywahls.com/ForumRetrieve.aspx?ForumID=3736&TopicID=12219&NoTemplate=False
RRMS dx 2002.
Vogl, oktober 2010
Ameds, marts 2012
'Terry Wahls Diæt' siden 3. april 2012
'Terry Wahls Paleo Diæt' siden 1. oktober 2012

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« Svar #6 Dato: 05 Juni 2012, 16:01:22 »
Sidder netop og tygger i en g-fri bolle, som jeg bagte en portion af i søndags. Lidt specielt, men kan sagtens bruges som substitut for den ægte vare.

En kop kaffe og en g-fri bolle efter en blæsende og kold tur med hunden er nu slet ikke at foragte. Det er ikke sidste gang jeg bager en portion.
SPMS'er, dx 1997, kørestolsfræser. Har aldrig fået medicin. Selvbedømt EDSS 7. Liberated i Indien d. 8.11.2010 - små bitte forbedringer.
Siden 1.1.2012 på TW's diæt - 100%. 1. juni 2013 startet D-vit. kur.

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« Svar #7 Dato: 06 Juni 2012, 12:40:48 »
Superide Lisa med denne side, hvorfor har vi ikke lavet den for længe siden.

Jeg er også en af de mange som efterhånden følger TW. Jeg har fået en masse mere energi og føler jeg har det meget bedre indeni, kan ikke forklare det nærmere end at jeg føler mere ro og at jeg føler mig mere rigtig.

Jeg har frisk hjemmedyrket grønkål i haven, som jeg bruger til den grønne smoothie hver anden uge, de andre uger er der spinat. Selvom jeg synes jeg spiser mange gange om dagen, har jeg svært ved at nå 9 cups, men tror alligevel de fleste får mere end vi regner med.  Hvis du ikke har en have, så frem med altankasserne eller udskift potteplanterne med spiseligt, der skal ikke så meget plads til.

Jeg har efterhånden udvidet hvad jeg spiser og kunne godt tænke mig at prøve noget tang, men hvad gør jeg? Kan nogen hjælpe mig? Tager jeg bare en tur til stranden og samler lidt eller hvor købes det og hvordan tilberedes det.

Betty
SPMS. diagnose i 2004. Liberated hos Euromedic Poland (Dr. Simka) 12. maj 2010
Tungmetaller udrenset med EDTA efterår 2011
På TW diæt fra 1-1-2012

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SPMS'er, dx 1997, kørestolsfræser. Har aldrig fået medicin. Selvbedømt EDSS 7. Liberated i Indien d. 8.11.2010 - små bitte forbedringer.
Siden 1.1.2012 på TW's diæt - 100%. 1. juni 2013 startet D-vit. kur.

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« Svar #9 Dato: 08 Juni 2012, 14:13:28 »
Hej tw'ere :)

Jeg spiser tangsalat fra fiskehandleren en gang om ugen. Det smager godt og er nemt.
 
Jeg har også købt noget tørret tang i en helsekostbutik. Det er straks sværere. Det lugter og smager ikke umiddelbart godt når man bløder det op. Der må være nogle tricks jeg ikke kender, for det lader jo til at være ret populært.
 
Jeg ville gerne prøve at lave ’bone broth’, altså en suppe på ben hvor man koger noget tang med.
Jeg er lidt kød-forskrækket (jeg var vegetar…) så jeg endte med at smide suppen ud, det lugtede ikke godt. Jeg havde ikke fået renset kyllingeskelettet for lever etc. Og jeg kom 2 stykker tang i, opskriften sagde kun 1...
 
Jeg har købt fra en helsekostbutik noget Clearspring: ’japanese kombu, dried sea weed’.
 
Indskriften på pakken forvirrer mig en hel del:
 
Guidance from food safety authorities suggests limiting consumption of this sea vegetable product to no more than 1g pr. week (dry weight) for adults. Children under 4 years of age are recommended a third of this quantity.
 
Måske er det en smagsgiver som skal bruges i meget begrænset mængde, måske skal man tage advarslen lidt let?
 
Jeg vil på et senere tidspunkt prøve at lave bone broth ordentligt med et ’renere’ ben og mindre tang, for det skal da dufte spiseligt :D
 
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RRMS dx 2002.
Vogl, oktober 2010
Ameds, marts 2012
'Terry Wahls Diæt' siden 3. april 2012
'Terry Wahls Paleo Diæt' siden 1. oktober 2012

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« Svar #10 Dato: 08 Juni 2012, 15:08:01 »
Hej Signe

Jeg ved ikke om jeg laver ' bone broth' rigtigt, jeg tog nogle osso buco og nogle kraftben og ned i en gryde sammen med vand og lidt salt og lod det småsnurre tre timer. Så skrabede jeg marven ud af benene og kom det i suppen. spiste det som suppe. Kødet spiste jeg til. Har frosset små portioner ned, så det lige er til opvarmning i en gryde eller i mikroen, og så er frokosten serveret.
Ikke sidste gang jeg gør det, kan klart anbefales. Velbekomme.

Betty
SPMS. diagnose i 2004. Liberated hos Euromedic Poland (Dr. Simka) 12. maj 2010
Tungmetaller udrenset med EDTA efterår 2011
På TW diæt fra 1-1-2012

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« Svar #11 Dato: 08 Juni 2012, 18:29:12 »
Tak for inspirationen Betty. Det skal jeg helt klart prøve
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« Svar #12 Dato: 10 Juni 2012, 09:29:09 »
Nem mad

Quinoa:
En del quinoa og to dele vand, lidt salt og en lille håndfuld rosiner (giver lidt sødme) koges et kvarters tid. Sluk for gryden og lad det stå og trække yderligere et kvarters tid. Jeg plejer at lade det stå lidt længere, ca et bads tid. Efter det har trukket rører jeg et par skefulde olie i. Spiser det meste som morgenmad, og resten i løbet af dagen, som regel om eftermiddagen.

Spinat:
Kom frisk spinat i et smurt ildfast fad og hæld soya-fløde over. Jeg ved godt TW udelukker soya, men jeg har uden succes prøvet med kokosmælk og andre ting, så jeg har givet mig selv lov til at en gang om ugen må jeg godt bruge soyafløde. Fadet sættes i ovnen, rør i det med jævne mellemrum, det falder meget hurtigt sammen og fylder næsten ingenting. Lad det stå en halv times tid, så bliver fløden tyk, næsten som stuvet spinat.

Rødbeder/røde pommes frites:
Rødbederne skrælles og skæres i stave ligesom pommes frites og bages i ovnen på samme måde.

Panering:
Brug sesamfrø eller andre frø til panering.

Grønkål-smoothie:
Hvis du har frisk grønkål, så giv det et hurtigt opkog og så i blenderen. Tilsæt æblejuice, gerne en lidt sur en ellers kan  du tilsætte saften fra en halv rød grapefrugt.

Det var nogle af de ting jeg spiser og drikker, måske er det ikke lige din smag, så prøv dig frem med smagsvarianter. Hører gerne fra dig hvis du har nemme retter, jeg er ikke det store lys i et køkken, så til mig skal det helst være nemt.

Betty
SPMS. diagnose i 2004. Liberated hos Euromedic Poland (Dr. Simka) 12. maj 2010
Tungmetaller udrenset med EDTA efterår 2011
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« Svar #13 Dato: 10 Juni 2012, 11:37:43 »
Lidt mere snak om mad:

Mange morgner starter jeg med en smoothie af blåbær og banan. De frosne blåbær koger jeg hurtigt op om aftnen og kølner i køleskabet natten over. Dels kan min foodprocessor ikke klare frosne ting og dels bliver bærrene renset ved at koge op. (Øhh, håber ikke jeg dræber samtlige vitaminerne ved kogningen, det skulle jo gerne være her jeg henter en ’cup’ af sort/røde frugter til tw-regnskabet?)
 
Jeg griller ofte en øko pølse på panden i kokosfedt med et stort løg og karry. Dertil noget surkål.
Det spiser jeg enten til morgenmad eller frokost. Nogle dage skifter jeg pølsen ud med noget laks fra gårsdagens aftensmad.
 
Surkålen har jeg indtil nu købt på glas, men jeg har en ambition om at prøve at lave det selv. Jeg skal bare have anskaffet det rigtige rivejern, så det kan blive meget fintsnittet. Det ser ud til at være ret enkelt på den her lille film:
 
http://eathealthybehappy.blogspot.ca/2010/02/how-to-make-raw-fermented-vegetables-at.html
 
 
Jeg rister cashewnødder på panden… og spiser samlet mindst 200g forskellige nødder om dagen.
 
I går kogte jeg osso buco, den var god!

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Vogl, oktober 2010
Ameds, marts 2012
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« Svar #14 Dato: 10 Juni 2012, 12:31:49 »
Der er rigtig mange videoer om, hvordan man laver sauerkraut. Nogle af dem bruger en starterkultur - det ved jeg ikke lige hvad er, eller hvor man får fat i en. Men i Signes video (med meget urolig kameraføring) brugte hun jo ingen. På et tidspunkt vil jeg nok prøve. Jeg vil dog ikke håndsnitte, det har jeg ikke kræfter til, men har en foodprocessor med snitte- og rivejern. Har aldrig smagt sauerkraut og ved ikke om jeg vil kunne li' det. Det købte vil jeg ikke ha', det er pasteuriseret og alle gode bakterier slået ihjel.

Bare google på sauerkraut, så kommer der masser af sider, og på youtube er der mange videoer.

Jeg har paneret i knækkede boghvede kerner og quinoa med godt resultat.

Mht soya, så skifter TW ofte mening, og jeg mener ikke hun er så striks med soya mere. Man har en mening, indtil man tager en anden.

Blåbær spiser jeg helst friske, jeg synes  de smager pragtfuldt.
SPMS'er, dx 1997, kørestolsfræser. Har aldrig fået medicin. Selvbedømt EDSS 7. Liberated i Indien d. 8.11.2010 - små bitte forbedringer.
Siden 1.1.2012 på TW's diæt - 100%. 1. juni 2013 startet D-vit. kur.